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John Sculley Identifies OpenAI as Apple's First Major Competitor in Decades

10/13/2025, 9:21:44 PM

The Rise of OpenAI as a Competitor

At the Zeta Live conference in New York City, former Apple CEO John Sculley declared OpenAI as "the first real competitor" Apple has faced in many decades. Sculley, who led Apple from 1983 to 1993, noted that artificial intelligence (AI) has not been a strong suit for Apple, especially when compared to rivals like OpenAI, Google, Amazon, and Meta. He highlighted that Apple has struggled with consistent product updates and faced setbacks, including delays in revamping its AI-powered assistant, Siri.

Transitioning to the Agentic Era

Sculley emphasized the need for Apple to transition from what he termed the "apps era" to the "agentic era." In this new phase, he posited that technology would rely less on traditional applications and more on autonomous agents capable of performing complex tasks on behalf of users. He stated, "In the agentic era, we don't need a lot of apps; it can all be done with smart agents." This shift, according to Sculley, will necessitate innovative strategies and adjustments in Apple’s product development.

Implications for Business Models

Sculley also discussed the potential for subscription-based business models to become more prevalent as technology evolves. He argued that subscriptions allow customers to pay for services as long as they find value in them, contrasting this with the traditional model of selling permanent products. He remarked, "When you think of subscription, it's about people paying for something as long as they need it."

Leadership Changes and Future Directions

Speculation around current Apple CEO Tim Cook's potential retirement was another focal point of Sculley's remarks. He suggested that Cook's successor would need to guide Apple through the challenges posed by this transition to the agentic era. John Ternus, Apple’s hardware engineering chief, has been mentioned as a strong candidate for this role.

Jony Ive's Role at OpenAI

Adding to the competitive landscape, Sculley noted the recent acquisition of Jony Ive's startup by OpenAI for over $6 billion. Ive, a former design chief at Apple, is expected to contribute significantly to OpenAI's development of AI-based hardware devices. Sculley expressed confidence in Ive's ability to enhance OpenAI's offerings, stating, "If there's anyone who is probably going to be able to bring that dimension to the LLM, in this case OpenAI, it's probably going to be Jony Ive, working with Sam Altman."

Conclusion

Sculley's insights underscore a pivotal moment for Apple as it navigates the challenges posed by OpenAI and the broader shift in technology towards agentic AI. The company's ability to adapt to these changes, particularly in its AI strategy and business models, will be crucial for its future success.