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Pence's Call with Trump: 'Wimp' Remark Before Capitol Riot

10/28/2025

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Jonathan Karl's book Retribution reports Pence's January 6, 2021 call with U.S. President Donald Trump, including a 'wimp' remark.
Pence's handwritten notes show he emphasized upholding the law during the call.
The call occurred before Trump addressed a rally urging supporters to march to the Capitol, where the mob later stormed the building.
The book also discusses evidence gathered by Special Counsel Jack Smith regarding Trump's actions leading up to the insurrection.

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Jonathan Karl's book Retribution reports Pence's January 6, 2021 call with U.S. President Donald Trump, including a 'wimp' remark.
Pence's handwritten notes show he emphasized upholding the law during the call.
The call occurred before Trump addressed a rally urging supporters to march to the Capitol, where the mob later stormed the building.
The book also discusses evidence gathered by Special Counsel Jack Smith regarding Trump's actions leading up to the insurrection.